Modern Indo-European online language lessons, new website translations and open membership to the Association

During the last month and a half, there have been some improvements:

  1. We’ve begun a basic language learning project and favoured it over the rest of Indo-European development projects (news, encyclopaedia, texts, etc.). We want to help build a community giving them some basic knowledge, instead of just addressing those who already study (or have studied) Proto-Indo-European or Indo-European linguistics. We’ve just opened the online Modern Indo-European language lessons website at, still only in English, powered by Drupal.
  2. We’ve dedicated some time to keep building our main website, translating it into some new languages, like Polish, Russian, Greek, Czech, Romanian, Swedish, Norwegian, Finnish, Catalan, Slovak, Bulgarian, Lithuanian, Latvian, Danish or Slovene. If the other “main” languages are mainly poor machine translations, these new ones are in a still lesser category, and could be tagged more or less like bad automatic translated menus… In other words, they are there for people to be able to collaborate directly correcting mistakes and adding information from the English website, as they could already do with the “main” languages. Any correction or addition might be (as always) discussed at our Indo-European languages forum.
  3. We opened the membership for the Dnghu Association back in February. We don’t want to advertise it too much, as our aim is not (yet) to develop the participative side of our society, but to offer to those interested the possibility to help our association with small donations, with the return of being officially members of the Association (apart from other benefits we’ll try to give them) and thus being able to take some ordinary decisions. The actual problem is that the society is legally based in Spain, and important decisions are taken in our town; therefore, legally speaking, to be a member right now will mean generally no participation in important or strategic decision-taking. To sum up: for those interested in being members and help us a little bit, there is a new option called membership, which gives some legal rights, quite limited for those living outside Spain. For those not interested in taking that step, participation and discussion in our public projects remains open for all.

In the following weeks we’ll try to:

  • Further develop the online language lessons, including some audio files to give a better idea of the Modern Indo-European pronunciation.
  • Publish some officially translated texts, like prayers and Bible passages, either here in this website or in the Wikis for Indo-European texts
  • Send more printed copiesof the Indo-European grammar to European libraries; we have almost completed a new list of another 100 public and university libraries, we’ll see if and when we have enough time to prepare the packages.

Your Indo-European Language Team.

Indo-European language learning and the European Union Lifelong Learning Programme

We received some days ago an informal recommendation (from the Extremadura office in Brussels) to participate in the European Union Lifelong Learning Programme : Languages, to promote the teaching and learning of Indo-European languages and its reconstructed parent language, Proto-Indo-European; that could help us receive European public funds and make our project known outside Spain.

We haven’t the necessary time to prepare such a funding project right now, and we don’t know any potential European partners – the project must be transnational. If some of you (members of high schools, higher education institutions, language associations/institutions, etc.) are interested in joining us to create an Indo-European-language-learning-project, and would like to apply for the subsidies to develop an activity, please contact us.

We could certainly engage some academic departments of the University of Extremadura and probably obtain most of the necessary paperwork for the EU prepared by their members.

You can read more about the possible actions and activities to develop as well as some examples of accepted activities here.

Your Indo-European Language Team.

Indo-European Translator-Dictionary, Indo-European Grammar printed editions, public stats and Google Ads

These are our latest developments following the beginning of the new year:

  1. We have eventually published our Indo-European Translator-Dictionary (again) before it works correctly, in a pre-alpha or aleph version. We preferred to face the challenge of possible fatal errors of MySQL and a worse character output (bad UTF encoding) than to wait for months to release it. It is the next generation of our WLQO dictionary-translator project at SourceForge, which has been abandoned due to the comeback of the Open Translation Engine (OTE) project, on which WLQO was based.
  2. Because our main sales (since we first started to sell our Indo-European Grammar in November) have come from Spain, we decided to publish it in other (international) book stores, namely those people already trust, and which are flexible enough for us to be able to modify our files – from Amazon to Lulu, from our Editor to us, there is a greater degree in flexibility, but a lesser degree in consumer confidence, we guess. As always, those printed editions are prepared for those who don’t want to read our work in their computers, or who prefer professional editions rather than their own printer’s outputs.
  3. More than 2 years ago we decided not to earn money with Google ads, because most free projects rely on donations, and we wanted to look like what we are, a not-for-profit society. We knew then, and it’s been confirmed, that most donations come from the USA and other similar ‘donation-cultures’; we kept the hope that some enthusiast could provide us with some means to cope with our costs, but apparently no such person is interested in (or even knows) the Indo-European language revival, as we have still the same (Spanish) institutional donors. Because we have (apparently*) thousands of visitors each month, we think it’s fair to get something back from those visitors, and are thus offering different Google ads, which in no way disrupt the normal functioning of our site.
  4. *Apparently the visit numbers (for a static website like ours) were big – up to 50.000 visits a month following Webalizer, which takes on account every page load, up to 10.000 unique visitors after Awstats , which sifts the data -, beginning on April (following the publication of Indo-European Revival news in Spanish media), growing until August, and growing each month a little bit after that. Now we are not so sure of those numbers our server logs give, and want to have official statistics. We know that most log files can only be made from our server, as documents in PDF, RAR, ZIP, images, etc. are not logged by Statcounter, and that it uses javascript (and therefore many users go unaccounted for), but at least we’ll have a good, independent stats counter to be used, especially for future petitions of (private or public) subsidies.

Your Indo-European Language Team.

Indo-European Language History & Maps and other Resources

One of the latest changes made in our websites has been the move of our Indo-European Language Resources‘ weblog to an old subdomain, namely that of the Indo-European Dictionary-Translator, which is now been revised for its use in

We expect to post all new resources, and the improvements made to the old ones, in that blog, so that we can use this one for our main Indo-European Language Revival news only.

That’s all for now. Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year – and happy (second) birthday to the Dnghu Association! 🙂

Your Indo-European Language Team.

Your Dnghu Team.

A Grammar of Modern Indo-European (Printed Edition) – First 200 copies prepared to be freely redistributed

A Grammar of Modern Indo-EuropeanWe have received the first 200 books, and we will start sending them to different libraries tomorrow. The editor Imcrea Editorial has worked a press release to be distributed among journalists, which we reproduce here:

Report (revised automatic translation):

In order to understand each other, the 27 EU member states have to trust the biggest translation service of the world: more than 4,000 people work in the corridors of Brussels, Strasbourg and Luxembourg. Around them circulate the Spanish-Pole interpreter, the Spanish-Danish, Spanish-Finnish, Finnish-Estonian, Finnish-Bulgarian, Bulgarian-Maltese”¦ And so on until completing the 506 possible translation pairs that are necessary to have 23 official languages translated into each other. Not even the UN, with six working languages, wins in multilingualism.

All this distilled communication system bears an equally scandalous cost. The most recent data, of 2005, speak of 1,123 million euros invested in translations and interpreters throughout that year, which makes up 1% of the total budget of the EU, 2.28 euros per capita. Speaking in English, one of each 100 euros that leave the European box is used so that the 27 can understand each other. Whenever a language is added, the EU must add to the set of translations 25 million euros more.

Except for Finland, Hungary and Estonia [about 17 million inhabitants], the rest of Europeans, 97% of the population, have been speaking some language derived from Indo-European, a reconstructed language spoken 4,000 years ago in Europe and Asia. So why not recover this mother language, culturally neutral and common to all?

If some measures are not carried out, English, that has become the de facto lingua franca of the EU, will continue to prevail through the use of the argument of its world-wide weight. The Swiss François Grin, specialist in Linguistic Economy, published in 2005 a report which emphasized that Great Britain, thanks to the predominance of its language, gained between 17,000 and 18,000 millions euros annually because of the need of the other member states to learn English.

The Dnghu (‘Language’) Association is an international, non-profit organization located in Europe, whose main mission is to promote the Indo-European language and culture. Its primary concerns today are developing the Modern Indo-European Grammatical System, to bring the reconstructed Proto-Indo-European language to its full potential, and teaching it as a second language for all European Union citizens. Our long-term objectives are the adoption of Modern Indo-European by the European Union as its main official language, as well as the use of Indo-European as the main international auxiliary language, to overcome present-day communication barriers, derived from the cultural implications that arise from the use of English as lingua franca.

The Dnghu Association is financed by a private Spanish education company, Biblos, and its work is supported by Extremadura University professors. The regional Government of Extremadura and other public economic agents have also supported the Dnghu projects’ present and future implementation.

After creation of group, the presentation of the project and the legal incorporation of the Association, the last hit in our task to revive Proto-Indo-European is the publication of “A Grammar of Modern Indo-European” (at the moment only available in English), which tries to agglutinate in a single volume all the knowledge acquired in the last two centuries of Indo-European studies, and to provide at the same time an appropriate writing system and updated vocabulary to the modern needs of the language speakers. In order to enable a quick distribution of the book – and thus also the learning of the language – the Association has published it under free licenses, so that anyone can copy, publish and redistribute it freely; in addition, almost all the units printed will be dedicated to free donations to different European libraries.

Nota de Prensa (original Spanish version):

Para hacerse entender, los 27 paà­ses constructores de la Unión Europea han tenido que poner en pie el servicio de traducciones más grande del mundo: más de 4.000 personas trabajan en los pasillos de Bruselas, Estrasburgo y Luxemburgo. Por ellos circulan el intérprete de español-polaco, de español-danés, de español-finés, de finés-estonio, de finés-búlgaro, de búlgaro-maltés… Asà­ hasta completar las 506 parejas de traducción posibles que surgen por tener 23 lenguas oficiales. Ni la ONU, con seis idiomas de trabajo, le gana en poliglotismo.

Todo este alambicado sistema de comunicación conlleva una factura igualmente escandalosa. Los datos más recientes, de 2005, hablan de 1.123 millones de euros invertidos en traducciones e intérpretes a lo largo de ese año, lo que supone un 1% del presupuesto total de la UE, 2,28 euros por habitante. Hablando en castellano, uno de cada 100 euros que sale de la caja europea es destinado a que los 27 puedan descifrarse entre sà­. Cada vez que se incorpora una lengua, la UE tiene que sumar a la partida de traducciones 25 millones de euros más.

Salvo Finlandia, Hungrà­a y Estonia [unos 17 millones de habitantes], el resto de los europeos, el 97% de la población, habla algún idioma derivado del indoeuropeo, un idioma hablado hasta hace 4.000 años en Europa y Asia, ya reconstruà­do en su mayor parte ¿Por qué no recuperar esta lengua madre, culturalmente neutra y común a todos?

Si no se lleva a cabo alguna medida, el inglés, que se ha convertido de facto en la lengua franca de la UE, seguirá utilizando el argumento de su peso mundial para imponerse. El suizo François Grin, especialista en Economà­a Lingüà­stica, publicó en 2005 un informe donde subrayaba que Gran Bretaña, gracias al predominio de su lengua, ingresaba entre 17.000 y 18.000 millones de euros anuales provenientes entre otros apartados de la necesidad del resto de paà­ses miembros de la UE de enseñar el inglés.

Dnghu (“lengua” en indoeuropeo) es una organización internacional sin ánimo de lucro situada en Extremadura que nació con la idea de promover la lengua y cultura indoeuropeas. Su principal objetivo hoy es el desarrollo de las reglas gramaticales básicas del indoeuropeo para que adquiera todo su esplendor como lengua moderna, y la enseñanza del indoeuropeo como segunda lengua en la Unión Europea. Su objetivo a largo plazo consiste en la adopción del indoeuropeo por la Unión como su principal lengua oficial y nacional.

La Asociación Dnghu está financiada por una institución educativa española, la Academia Biblos, y su trabajo es apoyado por profesores de la Universidad de Extremadura. La Junta de Extremadura y otras instituciones ya dieron su apoyo concediendo un premio al proyecto en el I concurso “Empresas de la Sociedad de la Imaginación”, organizado conjuntamente por la Universidad de Extremadura y el Gabinete de Iniciativa Joven, con la participación de diversas instituciones públicas en su tribunal.

Tras la creación del grupo, la presentación del proyecto y la fundación legal de la Asociación, el último hito en el camino para revivir el indoeuropeo lo constituye la publicación de la “Gramática del Indoeuropeo Moderno” (por el momento sólo disponible en inglés, “A Grammar of Modern Indo-European”), que pretende aglutinar en un solo volúmen todo el conocimiento adquirido en los últimos dos siglos de estudios de los grandes indoeuropeà­stas, y proveer al mismo tiempo a la lengua de un sistema de escritura apropiado y de un vocabulario actualizado a las necesidades modernas. Para agilizar la distribución del libro ““ y asà­ también el aprendizaje de la lengua ““ la Asociación lo ha publicado bajo licencias libres, con lo que cualquiera puede copiarlo, editarlo y redistribuirlo là­bremente; además, casi todos los ejemplares que se impriman se dedicarán a donaciones gratuitas a distintas bibliotecas europeas.

Your Indo-European Language Team.

A Grammar of Modern Indo-European: limited copies of the first printed edition

Until recently, we didn’t deem it useful to print our material (but for ISBN and Legal Deposit issues), as our grammar was very simple and the information contained was freely copied and redistributed.

However, as our regional community is interested in offering copies of our grammar in their Public Libraries, and they’ve offered some public means to print the material, we are going to make another major release, possibly named 3.0.

Major changes will include, thanks to the help of some specialized readers (mostly scholars from Spain):

  1. Major corrections of obviously wrong reconstructions (especially from Greek and Latin), and adding of different possible reconstructions.
  2. Vowels and Laryngeals’ question (only to show how the oldest IE phonetic sounded like)
  3. Thorough explanation of IE dialects when possible, and that chapter left for the end of the book.
  4. Occlusives: palatovelars are excluded (again) from the writing system, and the reasons explained.
  5. Changes in noun declension and in its classification into different numbers, now trying to follow the Latin one
  6. A thorough revision of verbal inflection.
  7. Corrections of mistakes in English and other languages
  8. Syntax: Instead of waiting for a new big second volume, we will try to include all known common features of the oldest dialects of PIE into a small chapter.
  9. Formal issues: Notes are left for another independent (and cheaper) volume in black and white, ordered by Note number and also with PIE roots ordered alphabetically, to facilitate look up of etymologies and MIE words while reading the main book.

That book will be available first as a printed copy (some 500 pages) and possibly some time thereafter in PDF for download, and it will still have a CC-by-sa and GFDL licence. We plan to order some 50 copies, but if we receive more individual orders we will order some more – we don’t plan to earn money with this, though, so the price will be more or less that offered by the public editor.

Your Indo-European Language Team.

Dnghu Adsoqiation, “Language Association”, about to be legally incorporated in Spain

Dnghu Adsoqiation (or “Language Association”, in English), is about to be legally incorporated in Spain under the name Asociación Dnghu. It is not the happiest day for Indo-European Revival Group, as our intention was always to obtain enough funds to create a private Foundation, but it is indeed good news for the future of Indo-European as a spoken language.

We have been working for almost a year already as ‘Dnghu Group’ or simply ‘Dnghu’, without any legal status, thus losing the few opportunities we had to obtain public subsidies for cultural institutions. It was not important, however, as there was no important community behind our projects.

But, enough is enough, and we cannot live just on tiny scholarships, always awaiting a change in the general mood toward our projects, and – having ahead the deadline of 2007’s regional public funding for cultural institutions – we deem it our best option right now to have a legal, non-profit organization applying for them.

We expect to receive public subsidies from regional, national and European administrations, and also investments and funds from banks and other private institutions; and we hope to control at the same time the problems that an association may pose on organizational and budgetary matters…

Your Indo-European Language Team.

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Indo-European International Auxiliary Language and other projects

We have decided at Dnghu to modify some resources, as (we think) they were causing people and time to leak out from our most valuable projects. They are:, the Indo-European IAL web portal, which won’t be linked that much from Dnghu’s site. The site was designed to host a different, older and more phonetic view of the Proto-Indo-European reconstruction, to be used outside Europe – instead of the Europaio grammatical system, which is mainly based on the Indo-European Northern (or European) Dialect. We think it has been somehow confusing to mix it with Europaio in Dnghu’s website, making people believe we were trying to reconstruct (or even construct) two different languages, when our only aim was to facilitate the development of a more flexible and International grammatical system besides our easier, European-based one.

Sghola, Tekstos and Skientia free knowledge projects – which have nothing to do with Indo-European but for the names – have been (earlier as initially planned) taken over by Academia Biblos, to offer different school and university resources. As far as we know, Sghola will not be the projects’ central – as we promoted it -, but a commercial site for e-learning. However, we hope to take advantage of this change by using the portal in the future, maybe to offer free or commercial e-learning courses.

Your Indo-European Language Team.

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