Problems (again) with the webservers, new services added for, and more grammars donated to European libraries

Newest developments of the Association:

  1. Our webservers didn’t function correctly until the 20th of July, probably since June – i.e. just the period we couldn’t take care of them – due to some new configuration of the DSL by Spanish main telecom Telefonica, or, according to them, because of the “wrong installation / reparation by the technical service” last year, which was actually made by their official service 😕 . Apparently, then, we have to withstand technical problems of our Internet devices once a year…
  2. The new webmail accounts are already working using Google’s Gmail. That means some relief for our servers, and an easier administration of the accounts. There is also an email list for (allowed) subscribers at The first member blog has been created at the domain, too. All those options are still only opened for members, but we hope to be offering them for simple registered users in the near future. You can begin requesting them right now, though.
  3. After the failure of Orkut’s group, probably due to the limited success it has in countries different from Brazil and India, a new group has been created in Facebook, in the hope that it becomes a popular social network in Europe. More than a way to communicate between members, it should be a forum to spread and discuss the project with those interested in it.
  4. Some more grammars have been donated to European public and university libraries. New additions might be followed, as always, from the library donations page. There are some 170 books already, and hopefully we’ll be sending some 20 more to libraries related to the European Union (in Belgium, the Netherlands and Luxembourg) in the next weeks. After that, more copies of the printed edition will probably be needed to continue this donation campaign, or else stopped for some time.
  5. The Association is represented by the French Chauvet Cave Bear logo, because it represents the oldest tradition/history of Central Europe and therefore its original, prehistorical inhabitants. We eventually selected a symbol to represent the language (and therefore projects like Europaiom), the Danish solvogn or “sunwagon“, because that is probably the oldest representation we have of what are (and were) common symbols of those who spoke Europe’s Indo-European in the latest PIE community in Northern Europe until ca. 4.000 years ago: the horse and the wheel, or, better, the horse and the wagon. The solvogn (of ca. 1800-1600 BC) was most probably made within an already differentiated Proto-Germanic community, but is nevertheless representative of the common ancient Indo-European language and culture of Europe. It therefore represents the purity looked for with the modern language system in relation to the prehistorical European language we try to revive at Dnghu.

Your Indo-European Language Association Team.

Indo-European language learning and the European Union Lifelong Learning Programme

We received some days ago an informal recommendation (from the Extremadura office in Brussels) to participate in the European Union Lifelong Learning Programme : Languages, to promote the teaching and learning of Indo-European languages and its reconstructed parent language, Proto-Indo-European; that could help us receive European public funds and make our project known outside Spain.

We haven’t the necessary time to prepare such a funding project right now, and we don’t know any potential European partners – the project must be transnational. If some of you (members of high schools, higher education institutions, language associations/institutions, etc.) are interested in joining us to create an Indo-European-language-learning-project, and would like to apply for the subsidies to develop an activity, please contact us.

We could certainly engage some academic departments of the University of Extremadura and probably obtain most of the necessary paperwork for the EU prepared by their members.

You can read more about the possible actions and activities to develop as well as some examples of accepted activities here.

Your Indo-European Language Team.

Indo-European Language Association: Projects, Subsidies, ToDos and Holydays

After the last weeks of holydays, some Dnghu members are back to work. We are all, however, engaged in different activities in the University – Doctorate, Exams, Academy (private) lessons for the exams, and language courses.

Recent matters to be solved at DNGHU before the beginning of this academic course:

– The decision on the public subsidies for the project of teaching European languages are due for September after informal reports, even though no date has been fixed. Even if we don’t receive the public approval, we have made some agreements with private schools to teach this experimental subject in the 2007-2008 course, instead of Latin or ‘Classical Studies’.
– We haven’t accomplished some of our ToDos for 2006-2007, like the PodCast in Indo-European, the news’ website, the renewal of Dnghu’s site (and its correct translation into Modern Indo-European), and many other little projects. We hope to get all this done before Christmas.
– Some domain names haven’t been renewed by our provider while we were on holydays, in the last 20 days; we hope this will be solved in the next days without further problems. Sorry for the inconveniences to all of you Wiki editors.
– The printed copies of our Indo-European Grammar were supposed to be available on 20th August; there was a problem in the output (it was not a “Distiller” document, as the printer wanted, but “only Acrobat”…), so we might have to wait a little more time till Editor and Printer agree on the final price. In any possible case, we hope to have most of the 200 copies sent to different European libraries by the end of October.
– Apparently, some spammers are using our domain and others to send thousands of emails; many anti-spam software out there (stupidly) answer automatically to the spammer email’s address, and we’ve got hundreds of spam warnings a day, so we have to delete thousand of mails. So the spammed servers are ironically spamming us… We will try to read any possible mail, but please share any information in the forum instead, just in case we mistakenly delete(d) your email.
– We want to have a site for links on linguistics, where every possible free online resource is listed or downloadable, so that every visitor can learn the (Proto-)Indo-European reconstruction – and Proto-Language/Nostratic, Indo-Uralic as well as Indo-European early dialects and proto-languages. If you know good websites, post them in the Forum, so that our work is more easily done.
– We will probably open a period for easy membership to our association, so that every interested individual or organization is able to participate in future decisions and elections.

That’s (almost) all for now.

Your Indo-European Language Team.

General failure on Indo-European Association websites from 16-17 July, 2007

As we commented before, we had requested some weeks ago the next bandwidth in the scale offered by our ISP, due to the increasing visits and downloads from our websites.

Yesterday, they just disconnected the phone from their central, and after 8 complaints and 15 hours, they have eventually shown up and arranged the new connection, which – for the moment – shows only a great download rate, but the same upload.

Sorry for the inconveniences, we hope that the new connection is worth the troubles.

Your Indo-European Language Team.

Modern Indo-European Grammar 2nd Ed., Indo-European for the EU (2007), and Proto-Indo-European Etymological Dictionary by J.Pokorny

At least three new main releases have been made since our last report:

  1. Modern Indo-European Grammar, Vol. I (Morphology), version 2.10, already published as Full Second Edition. We will see how the volume on MIE Syntax is written and revised from now on.
  2. Proto-Indo-European Etymological Dictionary by Julius Pokorny (originally Indogermanisches Etymologisches Wörterbuch), revised and formatted as tagged PDF for quick reference.
  3. Proto-Indo-European language revival for the EU, our Foundation Project of 2006, revised as a European Association project for 2007.

All publications are made under a dual Free/Libre licence Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike v. 3.0 and GNU Free Documentation License v.2.

For more on minor version changes on this and other common works, please refer (and suscribe) to our Indo-European language resources’ blog.

Your Indo-European Language Team.